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		<title>Genesis on genetics</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is another archival report, originally written for the old blog in 2008. Here&#8217;s an interesting one: Genesis chapter 30. If you think Darwin got inheritance wrong, try the Bible. 30:28 And he [Laban] said, Appoint me thy wages, and &#8230; <a href="http://joe.dunckley.me.uk/2011/07/genesis-on-genetics/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>This is another archival report, originally written for the old blog in 2008.</em></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s an interesting one: <a rel="nofollow" href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/gen/30.html" target="_blank">Genesis chapter 30</a>. If you think Darwin got inheritance wrong, try the Bible.</p>
<blockquote><p>30:28 And he [Laban] said, Appoint me thy wages, and I will give it.</p>
<p>30:29 And he said unto him, Thou knowest how I have served thee, and how thy cattle was with me.</p>
<p>30:30 For it was little which thou hadst before I came, and it is now  increased unto a multitude; and the LORD hath blessed thee since my  coming: and now when shall I provide for mine own house also?</p>
<p>30:31 And he said, What shall I give thee? And Jacob said, Thou shalt  not give me any thing: if thou wilt do this thing for me, I will again  feed and keep thy flock.</p>
<p>30:32 I will pass through all thy flock to day, removing from thence  all the speckled and spotted cattle, and all the brown cattle among the  sheep, and the spotted and speckled among the goats: and of such shall  be my hire.</p>
<p>30:33 So shall my righteousness answer for me in time to come, when  it shall come for my hire before thy face: every one that is not  speckled and spotted among the goats, and brown among the sheep, that  shall be counted stolen with me.</p>
<p>30:34 And Laban said, Behold, I would it might be according to thy word.</p>
<p>30:35 And he removed that day the he goats that were ringstraked and  spotted, and all the she goats that were speckled and spotted, and every  one that had some white in it, and all the brown among the sheep, and  gave them into the hand of his sons.</p>
<p>30:36 And he set three days&#8217; journey betwixt himself and Jacob: and Jacob fed the rest of Laban&#8217;s flocks.</p>
<p>30:37 And Jacob took him rods of green poplar, and of the hazel and  chesnut tree; and pilled white strakes in them, and made the white  appear which was in the rods.</p>
<p>30:38 And he set the rods which he had pilled before the flocks in  the gutters in the watering troughs when the flocks came to drink, that  they should conceive when they came to drink.</p>
<p>30:39 And the flocks conceived before the rods, and brought forth cattle ringstraked, speckled, and spotted.</p>
<p>30:40 And Jacob did separate the lambs, and set the faces of the  flocks toward the ringstraked, and all the brown in the flock of Laban;  and he put his own flocks by themselves, and put them not unto Laban&#8217;s  cattle.</p>
<p>30:41 And it came to pass, whensoever the stronger cattle did  conceive, that Jacob laid the rods before the eyes of the cattle in the  gutters, that they might conceive among the rods.</p>
<p>30:42 But when the cattle were feeble, he put them not in: so the feebler were Laban&#8217;s, and the stronger Jacob&#8217;s.</p>
<p>30:43 And the man increased exceedingly, and had much cattle, and maidservants, and menservants, and camels, and asses.</p></blockquote>
<p>So, I think the deal here is that Jacob makes some pact where he gets  to take all of the stripey, speckled, and spotted cows, sheep, and  goats, from this other dude Laban&#8217;s stock. He does this, leaving Laban  with homogeneous flocks of plain individuals. He then attempts fraud by  making Laban&#8217;s plain individuals mate while looking at stripey things,  so that the offspring will be stripey, and Jacob can claim they are his  own. And, hey, guys, it totally worked.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not actually at all surprising that the offspring of two plain  individuals turn out stripey, speckled, or spotty. That sort of thing is  pretty normal.  Traits can skip generations and reappear later for a  variety of reasons. It could be that one or the other trait is linked to  a dominant/recessive gene system; or that they are influenced by  complicated combinations of genes, which are shuffled in each  generation; or that they are capable of being thrown either way by  developmental switches.  Indeed, it&#8217;s possible even to speculate on  reasons why the &#8220;feebleness&#8221; of cattle might be linked to the tendency  to breed true for more traits.</p>
<p>So, assuming that the story has some basis in reality (lets pretend,  anyway), Jacob probably just developed a superstition.  A convenient  myth to explain a mysterious natural phenomenon, while allowing him to  believe that he had some influence over that phenomenon. Perhaps he  noticed some stripey pattern in the landscape one day, noticed that  there was mating going on in the vicinity of the stripes, and then  noticed the stripey lambs being born. A meaningless correlation would  then appear, superficially, to be a principle of inheritance.  From  there, the superstition would develop as the believer started counting  hits, forgetting misses, and discovering his &#8220;ability&#8221; to select the  stronger more desirable individuals as parents (or post-hoc reasoning  that because it has sired a stripey calf, it must be a strong bull).</p>
<p>Alternatively, of course, Goddidit.</p>
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		<title>Simple rules</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 20:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is another archival repost, originally written for the old blog in november 2007. The main driving force for creationists is not science, but ethics. Their trump card is that &#8220;evolution is immoral&#8221;: they cite &#8220;might makes right&#8221; and eugenics, &#8230; <a href="http://joe.dunckley.me.uk/2011/02/simple-rules/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>This is another archival repost, originally written for the old blog in november 2007.</em></p>
<p>The main driving force for creationists is not science, but ethics.   Their trump card is that &#8220;evolution is immoral&#8221;: they cite &#8220;might makes  right&#8221; and eugenics, quote Darwin&#8217;s <a href="http://cotch.net/blog/20071102_1717">supposedly racist terminology</a> in <em>The Origin</em> and <em>Voyage</em>,  and put evolution at the centre of Nazi doctrine. Everything from  school massacres to teenage pregnancy is blamed on &#8220;evolutionization&#8221;.<small><sup>[1]</sup></small> It is not evolution that specifically bothers them; rather, evolution  is a prominent representative of all things that aren&#8217;t biblically  literal.  In a world where the bible is not simple, straightforward and  inerrant, ethics require rational thought and empirical facts.  There  are fuzzy lines between right and wrong, and tough choices where the  lesser of two evils is difficult to determine.  Creationists don&#8217;t care  about the truth; rather, they are angry that evolution casts doubts on  their book of simple rules.</p>
<p>The anti-abortion movement appears convinced that a massive  international genocide is occurring.  Their argument is that taking a  life is murder, and life begins at conception.  They are not using  &#8220;life&#8221; in any scientific sense, nor expecting their argument to be taken  as a scientific one.  To try arguing the matter on scientific grounds  is to throw your time away.  Try a Socratic session of defining terms  and you will be accused of dehumanising through language, in the mould  of the Nazi holocaust.  Arguments over when consciousness or pain  detection begins to develop will persuade nobody, because they rely on  the anti-abortionist admitting that life does not have solid boundaries,  but has grey areas, in which difficult ethical decisions lie.  The  argument is not about when life begins, it is about simple rules.</p>
<p>G.K. Chesterton is oft quoted as saying something along the lines of  &#8220;the problem with not believing in God is not that one believes in <em>nothing</em>, but that one will believe in <em>anything</em>.&#8221;<small><sup>[2]</sup></small> I am not so pessimistic, but it does seem to be true that in the  absence of God&#8217;s simple rules, people do their best to fill the vacuum.   Take the organic food movement.  Organic food is quickly rising in  popularity in the United Kingdom because it markets itself as tastier  and healthier, but most of all because it is ethical: good for the  environment, and fair on the producers.  Buyers of organic are making  the simple rule &#8220;organic is ethical&#8221;, and delegating the difficult tasks  to the producers and guardians of the organic brand.  Technically, this  may be classed as the fallacy of &#8220;appeal to authority&#8221;, but in practice  it is reasonable, as none of us has time enough to investigate  everything in depth ourselves, and so we must delegate at least some of  the work to authorities.  However, when delegating the task, most people  assume that the producers and the guardians of the organic brand will  be taking an empirical approach to deciding the most ethical growing  practices, and the rules for producing the healthiest, tastiest and most  environmentally friendly food.  Sadly, they are not.  The organic  movement has written its own holy book of simple rules and superstition.   The empirically determined healthiest and tastiest product is  substituted with the most <em>natural</em> product.  All chemical  pesticides, herbicides, fertilisers and GM are out, while natural  equivalents are in: a surrogate in place of improving biodiversity.   Instead of developing sensible rules for the use of pharmaceuticals and  antibiotics, which farming has traditionally grossly misused, the  organic movement dispenses with them in favour of &#8212; don&#8217;t laugh, animal  welfare is at stake here &#8212; <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.omsco.co.uk/index.cfm/organicmilk/WhyOrganic.AnimalWelfare" target="_blank">homeopathy</a>.</p>
<p>In last December&#8217;s <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.economist.com/opinion/displaystory.cfm?story_id=8381375" target="_blank">leader criticising the organic and fair trade movements</a>, <em>The Economist</em> miss the point.  Instead of criticising those movements for judging  their efficacy by surrogate outcomes and arbitrary rules, they simply  list their own alternative surrogate outcomes and arbitrary rules.  Both  sides are merely providing just-so stories for why their farming  methods are better, rather than looking at actual empirical measurements  of the true results they want to achieve.  Of course, <em>The Economist</em> is not even interested in the same results as the organic and fair  trade movements: they are interested in the simple rule of a free  market, no ifs and no buts.</p>
<p>Simple minds need simple rules; but intelligent rational people can  easily find themselves seduced by them too, if they are not wary.   Science has simple rules too, but of a different kind.  Science has  elegant equations and beautiful theories that make your heart race when  their simplicity clicks.  Witness Thomas Henry Huxley&#8217;s comments on  closing <em>The Origin of Species</em>: &#8220;Why didn&#8217;t I think of that?&#8221;  The  most awesome aspect of evolution is that such simple rules produce the  complex wonders of life.  Life, when it becomes complex, no longer  conforms to any one simple rule.  Neither can our lives.  In  <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b66SlBA948o" target="_blank">an episode of <em>Father Ted</em></a>,  the senile old drunk Father Jack professes the least understanding, but  provokes the most productive thought from others, with his mantra &#8220;that  would be an ecumenical matter&#8221;.  If you&#8217;re faced with difficult  questions or fierce arguments, and in need of a simple rule, I offer you  this: &#8220;that would be an empirical matter.&#8221;  And from there, let the  wonderful complexity blossom.</p>
<h4>References</h4>
<ol>
<li>Tom DeLay, quoted in &#8220;Evolution Revolution&#8221;, <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/religion/revolution/1990.html" target="_blank">PBS.org</a>.</li>
<li>Though the American Chesterton Society have trouble <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.chesterton.org/qmeister2/any-everything.htm" target="_blank">verifying the source</a>.</li>
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		<title>Review: Extreme Pilgrim</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Feb 2011 20:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is another archival repost originally written for my old blog a few years ago. I caught the last couple of minutes of Extreme Pilgrim (BBC 2, Friday 9pm) and was intrigued, so fired up the iPlayer to watch the &#8230; <a href="http://joe.dunckley.me.uk/2011/02/review-extreme-pilgrim/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>This is another archival repost originally written for my old blog a few years ago.</em></p>
<p>I caught the last couple of minutes of <em>Extreme Pilgrim</em> (BBC 2, Friday 9pm) and was intrigued, so fired up the <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer" target="_blank">iPlayer</a> to watch the whole thing.  It&#8217;s Vicar of Dibley meets Ray Mears&#8217;  Extreme Survival, all done in the style of an American college student  movie.  The main character presenter is Peter Owen Jones, a  Sussex parish priest who defies the law that Anglican priests may speak  no louder than a whisper.  His accent is very 1960s public-school,  though it also reminded me a little of <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i32312ExBZA" target="_blank">this Fry and Laurie sketch</a>,  which begins to make sense when you learn that before joining the  priesthood he was in marketing.  There is marvelous rhythm in the way he  pronounces &#8220;Him-ah-lee-ahs&#8221;.  It made for a slightly surreal programme  when combined with the Alan Davies haircut and constant  bewildered/stoned facial expressions.</p>
<p>Jones goes &#8220;seeking the spiritual enlightenment that Britain once  had&#8221; in India.  He joins some Sadus at the Kumbh Mela, the massive Hindu  festival on the Ganges.  The first half of the programme is given over  to Jones getting stoned and staying up &#8217;till five in the morning.  I  wonder what Stephen Green or Mary Whitehouse would make of nice Anglican  vicars smoking weed on the BBC.  After a wadge of notes has changed  hands, the group sit around the camp fire talking of how we should not  be seeking rewards in this life, and of how the modern world is too  concerned with the economic at the expense of the spiritual.  In a  marvelous scene with a cross-legged old guru, subtitles pop up to say  &#8220;give me a hundred rupees&#8221;; this is translated for Jones, however, as a  stream of spiritual babble about giving up material possessions.   Another marvelous scene shows Jones, having been fast-tracked into the  job of a Sadu, dressed in the full orange robes and still looking rather  spaced.  He stands in silence for twenty seconds before wondering aloud  &#8220;where am I?&#8221;  When the festival is over Jones sets off for a cave in  the mountains with the objective of &#8220;purifying your parts with  austerity&#8221;.  Fnarr fnarr.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all very nice.  We meet lots of amicable characters preaching  peace and charity.  But it&#8217;s the perfect advert for why peaceful,  liberal, friendly, wishy-washy &#8220;spiritual&#8221; religion is not universally  harmless.  This is the eastern spiritual utopia that so many Westerners  look to as the solution to the problems of our materialist lives in the  West?  A skeletal shaman runs back and forth across a busy road to kiss  the tarmac: &#8220;he&#8217;s making the energy meet &#8212; that&#8217;s <em>his</em> philosophy.&#8221;  In his mountain cave, Jones is visited by the village  chief, who comes with offerings and a request for blessings of his  daughter&#8217;s marriage.  Jones is very upset one morning as he confesses to  battering a scorpion with a saucepan: &#8220;I was a guest on his territory.&#8221;   The programme closes with Jones observing that he is &#8220;a product of a  society that values economic well-being as much as spiritual  well-being.&#8221;  Uhuh.  And your society has running water, an absence of  open-pit latrines in the street, and a distinct lack of amoebic  dysentery.  <em>I</em> would call that a <em>good thing</em>.  And that is  the problem with peaceful, liberal, friendly religion: to value  &#8220;spiritual needs&#8221; means to value the next life and the invisible friend  above the needs of real people in the one life that they get.  A  &#8220;philosophy&#8221; that values disease and starvation does not indicate a care  for man&#8217;s real spiritual needs.</p>
<p>So while the programme ended up as Vicar of Dibley meets Ray Mears,  deep down it was trying to combine the Jesus complex of the git-wizard  David Blaine with the philosophical power of rocket scientologist Tom  Cruise.  The programme thinks that it is making a profound insight into  society and nature (the same &#8220;profound insights&#8221; of stoned hippies  everywhere), but utterly fails to make the case.  Still, it makes for  entertaining television.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is another archival repost originally written for the old blog in april 2008. I listened to a sermon[1] by Ken Ham, creationist head of Answers in Genesis, the other day. I was erm &#8230; researching a role? Anyway, it &#8230; <a href="http://joe.dunckley.me.uk/2010/10/in-which-i-inflict-ken-ham-upon-myself-and-others/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>This is another archival repost originally written for the old blog in april 2008.</em></p>
<p>I listened to a sermon<small><sup>[1]</sup></small> by Ken Ham, creationist head of <em>Answers in Genesis</em>,  the other day.  I was erm &#8230; researching a role?  Anyway, it was great  fun.  My knowledge of church services is limited to the Anglican  tradition, and it was very educational to hear how things are done  evangelical style.  I won&#8217;t bother dissecting Ham&#8217;s argument bit by bit  &#8212; though it&#8217;s worth mentioning the occasional bursts of outright <em>Lying For Jesus</em>,  such as the claim that textbooks state that there are higher and lower  races of man, or the conflation of species (of cats) with breeds (of  dogs).  You know, things so absurdly wrong and depressingly easy to  fact-check.  Rather, what really interested me was the way he wove two  very different classes of (equally fallacious) arguments together.  On  the one had were his creative truth-claims in favour of biblical  literacy and against the findings of science.  On the other were  arguments about perceived consequences that acceptance of evolution has  for morality.  Ham flickered back and forth between the two, ignoring  the distinction.  It&#8217;s an acceptable rhetorical technique, I suppose:  mix claims about what is true with scare stories about what happens if  you don&#8217;t believe it.  I&#8217;m sure many of the arguments for atheism could  even be charged with using this technique at times, and it&#8217;s a staple of  politics and tabloid news.  But I think that it says something very  interesting about the motivation of creationists.</p>
<p>Ham&#8217;s argument from consequences comes down to this: if the bible is  literally true, God determines morality.  If evolution is true, morality  is based on man&#8217;s fallible word.  And you know what?  He&#8217;s right.  The  bible is wrong about an awful lot of things (sometimes it&#8217;s just asking  too much to believe that it was intended as allegory), and God does not  determine morality.  To paraphrase HectorAvalos : it is not sufficient  to demonstrate that the bible gets one fact right in order to  demonstrate that it is is useful, relevant, ethical, or the revealed  word of God.  But one inaccuracy is all that it takes to prove that it  isfallible and questionable.<small><sup>[2]</sup></small> Ham therefore believes that it is his duty to defend every word of the bible as the truth.  Only <em>that</em> with &#8220;save their souls.&#8221;  The end goal of promoting creationism is not  to have everybody believe in creation, but to fight the rise of the  &#8220;pagans.&#8221; (Lol.)  Ham believes that if people are taught that it doesn&#8217;t  really matter how God made the world, they will question whether <em>he</em> made it at all.  If people are taught that it doesn&#8217;t really matter  whether everything in the first book of the bible happened, they will  question whether the events of the Gospels really happened.  And you  know what?  I can&#8217;t argue against that.  Our only difference is that Ham  believes that this is a <em>bad thing</em>.</p>
<p>The tactic of mixing truth with consequences is something that has been inherited by the intelligent design movement.  Take the <a rel="nofollow" href="http://wiki.cotch.net/index.php/Wedge_document" target="_blank">Wedge document</a>,  the DiscoveryInstitute&#8217;s 1998 manifesto (leaked, and now subject to  desperate attempts at distancing and damage control from the Disco  Inst.).  The document makes vague appeals to science here and promises  research programmes there, but it is primarily concerned with the  perceived effects of &#8220;scientific materialism&#8221;.  Socialism is the  preferred bogeyman of the Disco Institute, though the link between  evolution and socialism never seems far from confused.  Or, of course,  we have Ben Stein in theater(s) (for one week only) rather offensively  lying for Jesus about racism and playing games with the holocaust.<small><sup>[3]</sup></small> School shootings, abortion, homosexuality, and all the other  traditional demons are these days the responsibility of  &#8220;evolutionization&#8221;.<small><sup>[4]</sup></small></p>
<p>Claims about the truth and claims about consequences are not the same  thing, and I&#8217;d be rather offended if somebody gave a lecture or made a  film mixing the two so thoroughly and expected <em>me</em> not to notice.</p>
<h2>References</h2>
<ol>
<li><a name="_note_1"></a>Available <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.graceky.org/index.php?c=sermons" target="_blank">here</a></li>
<li><a name="_note_2"></a>From his <a rel="nofollow" href="http://mnatheists.org/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=62&amp;Itemid%20=48" target="_blank">Minnesota atheists lecture</a>, if I recall correctly</li>
<li><a name="_note_3"></a>In <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.expelledexposed.com/" target="_blank">Expelled</a></li>
<li><a name="_note_4"></a>Attributed to Tom DeLay, 1999. &#8220;<a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/religion/revolution/1990.html" target="_blank">U.S. Republican politician blames the Columbine shootings on &#8220;evolutionization</a>&#8220;.</li>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2010 21:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>At the weekend around 12,000 people marched through London in protest against the policies of the Pope.  A <a href="http://cotch.net/blog/100920_1844">photo essay on <em>cotch dot net</em></a> explains why we were there.</p>
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		<title>Did Darwin Kill God?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 12:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is another archival repost from the old blog &#8212; this time from april 2009. I found on the iPlayer the latest in BBC2&#8242;s series of Darwin documentaries, Did Darwin Kill God? This is theologian Conor Cunningham&#8217;s attempt reconcile science &#8230; <a href="http://joe.dunckley.me.uk/2010/09/did-darwin-kill-god/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p>I found on the iPlayer the latest in BBC2&#8242;s series of Darwin documentaries, <em><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00jhfwt" target="_blank">Did Darwin Kill God?</a></em> This is theologian Conor Cunningham&#8217;s attempt reconcile science and  religion, and show that their differences are all just a  misunderstanding deliberately promoted by 20th century American  christian fundamentalists, and 21st century atheist fundamentalists.<span id="more-200"></span>We could play count the mistakes, but I&#8217;ll try to keep it to the most  illustrative examples.  Firstly, Cunningham wants to show that Darwin  himself has nothing to say on science versus religion.  In correcting  the simplistic idea that Darwin lost his religion entirely because of  evolution, Cunningham suggests that Darwin instead lost his religion  entirely because of the personal tragedy of his daughter&#8217;s death.  Uh.  I  think you&#8217;ll find it&#8217;s a bit more complicated than either of those. And  it&#8217;s true that Darwin did, for various reasons, generally try to keep  quiet about God and religion, but he knew his work did have a bearing on  the field, and, for example, made quips about a loving creator god and  the design of parasitic Ichneumonid wasps.</p>
<p>Worryingly, it is not just his history of science that is  oversimplified so far as to be plain wrong: his characterisation of his  own field looks no better.  He seems to think that throughout history  creationism was an obscure aberration, taken seriously only by the  eccentric fringes of theology &#8212; you know, like James Ussher, mere  Primate of All Ireland, or theologian William Paley.  Real members of  the One True Faith followed the &#8220;mainstream&#8221; teachings of Augustine, and  took Genesis as allegory.  I am not, and have no interest in being, a  theologian.  I don&#8217;t know enough about the subject to be able to say  whose ideas have attracted the largest following throughout history.   But I am slightly concerned.  In my experience, a theologian placing an  idea on the fringe means that modern European academic theologians don&#8217;t  take it seriously, but that it has probably been the dominant dogma of  their church and its laity for most of its history.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, Cunningham&#8217;s idea that American creationism was invented  during the Scopes trial as a reaction to eugenics is an entirely new one  to me, along with the ideas that American creationism was all old-earth  creationism until the 1960s, and that young-earth creationism was  invented as a reaction to sixties liberalisation of values.   Biblicalliteralists are indeed motivated by perceived threats to their  moral systems, but I think you&#8217;ll find that the history of the movement  is a bit more complicated than that &#8212; to the extent that Cunningham&#8217;s  version of history is just plain wrong.</p>
<p>The best part of the programme though, is Cunningham&#8217;s attempt to  characterise the state of current thinking in evolutionary biology, and  show how &#8220;ultra-Darwinists&#8221; are discredited.  Perhaps if I knew as much  history and theology as I do biology my jaw would have dropped as far in  those sections as it did in this one.  The dropped jaw soon turned to  laughing out loud, though, when I realised that the work was merely one  of incompetence rather than deliberate misinformation.  I&#8217;ll skip over  his bizarre attempt to introduce the selfish gene theory and how the  human genome project has disproved it (!), and move on to the part that  really had me rolling on the floor: one of the most fantastically absurd  non-sequiturs I&#8217;ve ever heard.</p>
<p>The topic was <a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/memetics" target="_blank">memetics</a>:  the idea that ideas are replicating units that evolve as they spread  from one mind to another.  Memetics was originally just a thought  experiment about hypothetical units of evolution analogous to genes, but  was fleshed out, for example by Daniel Dennett and Sue Blackmore.  Now,  Sue Blackmore is great, but if Cunningham really knew the state of  evolutionary thinking, he would know that she does not really represent  even &#8220;ultra-Darwinists&#8221;.  But Cunningham drags her to Salisbury so that  they can do an interview in the station car park.  Brilliantly, he  discovers a fatal flaw in the theory of memes &#8212; one that he seems to  think somehow has important consequences for the credibility of Richard  Dawkins and the God hypothesis: if memes are true, evolution is itself a  meme!</p>
<p>&#8230; so what?</p>
<p>Well, think about it.  If evolution is a meme, it&#8217;s just a parasite  in our mind, and not true!  Memes destroy the truth of evolution!</p>
<p>Uhm.  But-</p>
<p>Ultra-Darwinists have never been able to answer this problem!</p>
<p>Oh &#8230; kay.</p>
<p>Cunningham clearly really does truly believe that his brain has just  done something brilliant.  I suspect he is correct in stating that  &#8220;ultra-Darwinists&#8221; have never been able to answer the &#8220;problem&#8221;, since I  have difficulty believing that anyone would ever before have managed to  think of it and say it out loud before noticing what an utterly and  humiliatingly ridiculous thing it would be to say.</p>
<p>As an aside, it is interesting to consider truth and memes.  Under  the theory of memetics, the idea that truth is of value would itself be a  meme (and a very meritorious one).  In the <em>Selfish Gene</em>, Dawkins  talks about the need for genes to cooperate, or to put it another way,  selfish genes have to be able to survive in an environment that contains  many other selfish genes.  Analogously, memes have to survive in an  environment of other memes.  Scientists, for example, host a series of  memes for methods of filtering the non-true memes that might be trying  to infect them.  Skepticism, rationalism, logic, reason, and empiricism  are memes that are also meme filters.  But many people do not host them.   Others fail to recognise the truth in a meme because it conflicts with  false memes that they are already hosting.  Some people do not even  host the truth-valuing meme.</p>
<p>&#8211;</p>
<p>Cunningham&#8217;s thesis &#8212; and, it would appear from the website, the  thesis of the executive producer of the BBC2 Darwin season &#8212; is that  creationists and &#8220;ultra-Darwinists&#8221; are extremists: two different kinds  of fundamentalists abusing Darwin to promote their sinister agenda.   Richard Dawkins, for example is an extremist because he believes that  there is no need for God.  (Not because he believes that religion is a  bad thing: merely believing that there is no need for God is enough to  get you branded an extremist.)</p>
<p>Cunningham is showing us the two unreasonable, frightening, even  dangerous extremes, and telling us that the truth lies in the middle &#8212;  bang on the spot where Darwin and the Bible are both right, in their own  ways.  This is apparently the <em>reasonable</em> position.  Life on earth evolves, and Christ died on the cross for our sins and rose from the dead.  That&#8217;s the <em>reasonable</em>, moderate, non-extremist middle ground position to hold.</p>
<p>Perhaps next the Beeb could help us reach a nice reasonable and  moderate middle-ground position between those extremists who either  demand that pi is ~3.14159 or that it is exactly 3.</p>
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<td>Did  Cunningham really think that memes are necessarily parasitic? If so,  how can the beeb lend legitimacy to such ill-researched piffle?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to watch it later, but I&#8217;ll be on the lookout for any  actual reconciliation between a simultaneously deliberate and  undeliberate means of creation. My hopes aren&#8217;t high.</td>
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<td>It  was a production of the religion and ethics department and imo it  showed. I was watching this last week as it went out but I started to  tire when he appeared to be setting up his reasonableness fallacy and  wandered off to make a cup of tea when he was getting onto memes. Though  I remember reading something in the new scientist about the Scopes  trial and how it wasn&#8217;t motivated by the same sort of young earth  creation crowd who are making the running these days, years ago, book  review I think.</td>
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		<title>Church leader declares crackpot ideas, gets free air time</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 22:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is another archival repost from the old blog &#8212; this one from March 2008. Wow, a slow news day, eh? The BBC, shunning predictable Chinese military aggression, another turn of the tides in Iraq, and yet more boring news &#8230; <a href="http://joe.dunckley.me.uk/2010/08/church-leader-declares-crackpot-ideas-gets-free-air-time/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p><em></em>Wow, a slow news day, eh?  The BBC, shunning predictable Chinese  military aggression, another turn of the tides in Iraq, and yet more  boring news about the economy, lead with &#8220;<a rel="nofollow" href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/7308224.stm" target="_blank">Brown criticised over embryo bill</a>&#8220;.   Somebody at BBC News is clearly a fan of Cardinal Keith O&#8217;Brien.   &#8216;Keith who?&#8217; I hear you ask.  What do you mean you&#8217;ve never heard of the  leader of the Roman Catholic church in Scotland?  The big news is that  O&#8217;Brien is making a fuss over the Human Fertilisation and Embryology  Bill.  The bill, currently in parliament, will, amongst other things,  make it easier for researchers to develop methods of growing tissues and  organs that are genetically identical to those who require transplants  or grafts, and is likely to help solve the problem of transplant  rejection and the need for  immunosuppressive drugs after transplants.   Then there&#8217;s cancer, Alzheimer&#8217;s, HIV, blah, blah.  This is, I&#8217;m sure  you&#8217;ll agree, a <em>terrible</em> thing.  I couldn&#8217;t put it better than O&#8217;Brien himself:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;This Bill represents a monstrous attack on human rights, human dignity and human life.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>The reason, of course, is that this bill enables the use of hybrid  embryos.  Putting little bits of reprogrammed adult human DNA into  animal zygote cells.  This presents all sorts of obvious problems for  the Roman Catholic Church.  It suggests the clearly impossible: that  humans are animals, evolved like all other animals, and following the  same developmental rules as our neighbours.  The Cardinal is, I am sure,  confident that hybrid embryos will never work, because of the obvious  fact that cows, pigs and mice are not created in God&#8217;s image.  That&#8217;s  elementary stuff.  Comes right at the beginning, in Genesis 1:27.  It&#8217;s  almost embarrassing that these biologists don&#8217;t know that.</p>
<p>Then there is the problem that this bill mentions embryology.  The  Roman Catholic church has, for the past few decades, tried to convince  the world that it knows all about embryology.  And don&#8217;t they just.  Is  it not the case that human embryos are human beings?  Is it not so that  fertilised eggs can think and feel, recite their twelve times tables,  and lead missions into pagan lands?  O&#8217;Brien is privileged with an  intimate knowledge of God&#8217;s colossal mind, and he knows that God <em>loves</em> zygotes.  So of course the Roman Catholic church must oppose a bill  that makes such absurd claims as development being mind bogglingly  complicated, life having fuzzy boundaries, or that <em>you</em> are  infinitely more valuable and important than the half dozen skin cells  that have fallen off your right index finger during your current  browsing session.</p>
<p>Of course, it&#8217;s not just the mind of God that O&#8217;Brien knows  intimately.  God knows what you and I think, and he has spilled the  beans to O&#8217;Brien:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;I can say that the government has no mandate  for these changes: they were not in any election manifesto, nor do they  enjoy widespread public support.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes of course.  Who is better placed to judge the beliefs, feelings  and fears of the public on this matter than Cardinal Keith O&#8217;Brien?  And  he&#8217;s the perfect candidate to head this &#8220;single permanent national  bioethics commission&#8221; that he proposes, too, what with his deep  knowledge of developmental biology and reproductive medicine, and his  profound understanding of the national mood.  Not to mention that direct  line to God.  You couldn&#8217;t find a more representative candidate in the  land.</p>
<p>Indeed, people were talking of nothing but the Human Fertilisation  and Embryology bill on the crowded train home yesterday, and I can tell  you, they&#8217;re not too happy about the army of monsters that are coming  our way.  &#8220;Haven&#8217;t these scientists ever <em>heard</em> of zombies,&#8221; one  of them asked?  Another was concerned that the convergence of  reprogrammed human nuclear DNA with bovine mitochondrial DNA within the  same cell membrane could just be the final straw that breaks the camel&#8217;s  back and leads God to break his promise never again to commit genocide  by flooding the earth.  One gabbling  mouthbreather even pointed out  that such an untested and unprecedented confluence of  incompatible   nucleotide sequences could, for all he knew, flip the earth&#8217;s magnetic  poles and precipitate the fiery conclusion of the universe.</p>
<p>Oh wait, have I got that right?  Now I think about it, perhaps  Britain is not the reactionary backwater that O&#8217;Brien thinks it is.   Perhaps the senile and simple individuals who pray for the souls of  cells do not make more than an entertaining but tiny minority of people  in this country.  Perhaps, just maybe, O&#8217;Brien&#8217;s series of non-sequiturs  have led him to a confused and offensively hyperbolic fantasy about  morality that he is pretending is representative of a universal   hallucination of the British public. Sure, this bill does not have  widespread popular support.  But that is because parliamentary bills get  only widespread popular obliviousness and apathy.  The cardinal is  dreaming if he believes that there is widespread popular opposition to  it.</p>
<p>How about a front page science story that doesn&#8217;t give 99% of the coverage to absurd ideas?</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is another repost from the old blog, for archival purposes. I&#8217;m watching Peter Owen Jones&#8217; Around The World In Eighty Faiths. You might recall Owen Jones as the public school hippy ex-ad man anglican vicar from Extreme Pilgrimage. This &#8230; <a href="http://joe.dunckley.me.uk/2010/07/but-truth-does-matter/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p>I&#8217;m watching Peter Owen Jones&#8217; <em><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/80faiths/">Around The World In Eighty Faiths</a></em>.  You might recall Owen Jones as the public school hippy ex-ad man anglican vicar from <em>Extreme Pilgrimage</em>.</p>
<p>This time &#8217;round, Owen Jones is on a world tour, looking at the beliefs and rituals of eighty different faiths.  It&#8217;s <em>fascinating</em>. The beliefs held by these eighty faiths are not in any way compatible with each other, and Owen Jones acknowledges this by not attempting to conjure those pitiful explanations for why they are, in-fact, all the same belief. He&#8217;s very respectful of the beliefs as they are described to him. For much of the series, he whispers as though it is an Attenborough documentary, and he must not disturb the wildlife in its natural habitat. He stands at a short distance watching in awe of the <em>rituals</em>.  Clearly profound things are up.</p>
<p>But when he goes to Moscow to meet the Russian Orthodox Christians, a brief and sudden angry streak displays itself. He is disgusted with what atheism &#8212; not communism, atheism &#8212; did to the Russian Orthodox religion under the Soviet regime. But, to tick off another of his eighty faiths, he goes to observe some atheists performing their ritual in a dusty old meeting room. He wants to know &#8220;what contemporary atheism has to offer.&#8221; What a fascinating way to approach the issue. Not whether an idea is right or wrong; what it <em>has to offer</em>.</p>
<p>Later he visits <a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federation_of_Damanhur">Damanhur</a>, a &#8220;spiritualist&#8221; commune in northern Italy. Here he learns about spherocells and environmental transformers, and concludes that there is much creative energy in the vicinity. Hey, in Damanhur, you don&#8217;t even need to be sentient to get creative: &#8220;Plants can modulate sounds. By making them listen to classical music, they learn to use it better. There is an interaction between our thoughts and the vegetable&#8217;s.&#8221; To prove the point, Owen Jones strokes a leaf to help the plant with its latest composition.</p>
<p>&#8220;Most religions have some wacky stuff in them. We&#8217;ve just become socialised into believing that &#8216;there are some people who believe this, and that&#8217;s OK.&#8217; Is that OK? I mean, <em>I</em> think that&#8217;s OK.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sure, Pete.  If you think that truth doesn&#8217;t matter.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve posted a quick review of The Way The World Is, physicist-vicar John Polkinghorne&#8217;s attempt at explaining to other scientists why he is a Christian.  It&#8217;s a tedious and embarrassing piece of work.  The book, that is.  The post, I &#8230; <a href="http://joe.dunckley.me.uk/2010/06/lay-science-the-way-the-world-is/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve posted a quick review of <a href="http://layscience.net/node/1055"><em>The Way The World Is</em></a>, physicist-vicar John Polkinghorne&#8217;s attempt at explaining to other scientists why he is a Christian.  It&#8217;s a tedious and embarrassing piece of work.  The book, that is.  The post, I hope, is at least entertainingly sarcastic.  <a href="http://layscience.net/node/1055">Read it here</a>.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 22:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Christina Odone reviewed Bill Maher&#8217;s film Religulous on Radio 4&#8242;s Front Row (start: 9m). &#8220;He gets some very good replies from some terribly soft targets.&#8221; She&#8217;s thinking particularly of creationist-sympathising US Senator Mark Pryor (D-AK). She goes on, &#8220;&#8230; but &#8230; <a href="http://joe.dunckley.me.uk/2010/05/soft-targets/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christina Odone <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00jbs25" target="_blank">reviewed</a> Bill Maher&#8217;s film <em>Religulous</em> on Radio 4&#8242;s <em>Front Row</em> (start: 9m).</p>
<p>&#8220;He gets some very good replies from some terribly soft targets.&#8221; She&#8217;s thinking particularly of creationist-sympathising US Senator Mark Pryor (D-AK).</p>
<p>She goes on, &#8220;&#8230; but the most revealing moment is when Maher faces down a priest at the Vatican and says, &#8216;what about hell, what about sin, what about, you know, the evils of temptation?&#8217;, and the priest says: &#8216;yeah, what about them?&#8217; and kinda shrugs off this simplistic attitude that Mayer has.&#8221;</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s the problem with the film: Maher is attacking &#8220;the wrong target.&#8221; What on earth attracts Maher to the simplistic belief of Mark Pryor, a mere everyday US Senator over the sophisticated religion of everyone&#8217;s favourite heavyweight Latinist Father Reginald Foster? What has Pryor got to offer the world? What influence does he have over anything? Who cares if some boring politician in the upper chamber of the legislature of some great world superpower might be sympathetic towards ridiculous religious views? What matters is that Vatican astronomer Father GeorgeCoyne softly dismisses those ridiculous religious views as being no longer relevant to the modern church. I mean, do try to keep up, atheists.</p>
<p>And I mean, so what if some soft target like The Pope makes some sort of batshit insane remark about condoms that defies basic anatomy and psychology, spits in the face of everyone who gives a crap about basic standards of truth-telling, and adds further insult the injury of <em>millions</em> of devastated lives?  Why attack a <em>soft target</em> like <em>him</em>?  What harm could his remarks possibly do?</p>
<p><em>This is a repost for archival of an item first published on the old blog a year ago.</em></p>
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